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Help with May b version?

Wingnut

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I just installed Win10 dev image from Microsoft.com and install Cerberus on it
This is what I got?
Screenshot 2020-05-13 at 09.24.51.png
 
It does not work anymore straight out of the box..
When you click it, some prompt window quickly opens up and disappears, and then slowly starts loading up the ide.

It also now looks weird, for instance the left edge of the prompt below the main area does not have a proper margin anymore, and have essentially become what I would technically call, whacked!

What happened to Cerberus?! I know that I'm using Virtualbox but my god all my other favorite apps works in it?
Btw this Microsoft Win10 image really makes me disappointed in how slow it is. Even if you give it plenty of memory, acceleration, optimise it and clean it. I will tell you right away; I'm deleting it.

Even if it makes it impossible for me to code Cerberus until I get a proper machine.
Could we make Cerberus lighter and more simple somehow?

Throw out Visual Studio and that QT for starters :mad:
 
So you say that the b version from itch.io behaves like that, the first 2020-05-09 version was fine?
 
So you say that the b version from itch.io behaves like that, the first 2020-05-09 version was fine?
Well 2020-05-09b works as it should. This is more likely a Virtual box issue. I've read a post where something like this usually happens on Linux.

When you click it, some prompt window quickly opens up and disappears
That's the launcher.

Btw this Microsoft Win10 image really makes me disappointed in how slow it is.
You are running it in a virtual machine, so that would be expected. Works well on real hardware using a SSD drive.

I take it that you have enabled Windows 10's developer mode?
 
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This is the first time I used Microsoft Win10 and also the first time I used Virtualbox so I can't say anything about previous versions that would be to any help. I just know that the latest version of Cerberus does not like the lasted versions of Win10 and/or Virtualbox.
 
Btw Microsoft has enabled Developermode yes. What is developer mode?
 
You are running it in a virtual machine, so that would be expected. Works well on real hardware using a SSD drive.

I know but all the other apps is so fucking quick? I use it for coding for gaming, painting for music, for writing, everything is so quick? But I use a VM of minimised Windows7 normally. But it is absolutely second-to-none compared to a hardware setup, which I like very much. Now I had to go Win10 of course, so I got a new image.

I thought Win10 would go "bit slower", Nono..
 
I borrowed a Win10 computer with 4GB RAM today just to see what happens, Cerberus won't run any examples on actual hardware so I think I just have bad luck ;)

It was slow, and it did not compile correctly to desktop. But I'm the only one on this forum that could not compile with it so I think I'll just wait until I can afford a proper Windows 10 machine.
 
Are you using MinGW and which version?
 
You don't NEED windows 10, you can use Windows 7 for sure. Everything works in Win7 too. Win10 was just recommented because it is supported by MS, Win7 not anymore.
@dawlane, maybe openal was not installed and so the glfw apps don't work. But then he said that it doesn't compile correctly. Could be anything and nothing with this kind of error report.
@Jimmy a Win10 machine with 4gb ram? Never heard of one. What brand is that?
 
I don't have the machine as of yesterday so I can't give any version numbers. I tried to fix everything myself before I had to give it back but I know it had 4GB, 64bit, with 1.x Ghz CPU. If that's too weak then I dunno where this world is going :rolleyes:

It worked perfectly for graphics design, it was excellent using Illustrator and Fusion 360.
 
Only speculation but on the real hardware it could have been a problem with he GPU and graphics driver maybe. Antivirus can also limit the app that may cause weird rendering glitches and crashes or maybe it was the compiler that was restricted by the AV. This is what usually the problem with VM's too, not all apps can run in such limited, restricted environment, although it is surprise me that Cerberus would be not light enough.
An other problem could be is Windows updates. Windows have this famous behaviour of slowing down a lot when updating, it is happened to me just yesterday, got the message pop up "you have new updates to install" and immediately after Cerberus did not respond, nothing was responding actually, the whole OS was freeze for like 2 minutes because Windows begin to prepare the updates for me. It can be a problem on old and slow PC with slow hard drives.

If you get your hands on a Windows machine next time:
1. Make sure graphics driver is up to date and it is support OpenGL
2. Make sure Cerberus is added to exceptions in AV settings and Cerberus and all libs has read and write permission
3. Make sure Windows is up to date and not installing anything in the background.
 
I think you're right. I might get a Pi and use Linux Mint instead and see how that experience will be when developing Cerberus :)
 
You could also install Linux on to a USB drive or boot directly from the installer in to Live mode on your PC or Mac and that way you can use it on actual real hardware the same that you use now without changing the current OS you running. Maybe there is a way to do the same with Windows 10 too, I don't know about that.
 
Actually I did try install Linux on that same machine and it was as slow as Windows. I'm thinking, bad hardware. Btw I updated the BIOS and everything.
 
But it *can* run an old Monkey1 at a very okay speed, so that kind of makes me sad. I'm missing something.
 
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